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Ahmadiyya Awareness Campaign

Oct 22nd, 1996

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In the name of Allah, the One & Only. His Love and Peace be upon Syedna Muhamaad, after Whom there is no Prophet and upon His Family & Companions

CAN AHMADIS ANSWER ?

by Illias Sattar

MORE CONTRADICTIONS

I WISH MIRZA GHULAM AHMAD SAHIB WAS ALIVE

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Sahib had at least one good quality: He did not run away from arguments. I only wish he was alive today so I could point out these contradictions and put my questions to him. Today his followers, including the present Khalifa Mirza Tahir Ahmad and all Qadianis/Ahmadis, do not take part in discussions any more. They run away like deer runs away from lion. The ONLY MAN who might have been bold enough to stand up and face these arguments and possibly renounce his false claim would have been Mirza Ghulam Ahmad himself. However let us try to do what we can in his absence. Some day some Ahmadis may finally see the light.

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian claimed to be Imam Mahdi and Promised Messiah, Two in One. It is an accepted Muslim Doctrine that Hazrat Isa (Jesus) pbuh will descend from Heavens and will help Imam Mahdi in the propagation of Islam and fill the world with Justice. When people asked Mirza Ghulam about Jesus son of Mary, Mirza Saheb replied that Jesus will not descend from heavens because he never went to heavens; rather he went to Kashmir where he died at the age of 120. To prove his point, he wrote a book called 'Messiah in India (Maseeh in Hindustan)'.

Quran says celibacy not prescribed in Christianity, BUT Mirza Sahib says the opposite:

In the same book, Mirza Ghulam tried to make his reader believe that many of the things mentioned in 'INJEEL' are also mentioned in the Buddhist literature. From this he concludes that Hazrat Isa pbuh came to India and preached the same doctrines which he had taught to Christians. Buddhists accepted his preachings, wrote them in their books and ascribed them to Buddha.

Mirza Saheb says:

"And just as Injeel has preached Celibacy, similarly in Buddha's teachings it is desired; and just as an earthquake came on putting the Jesus to the cross, similarly it is written that an earthquake came on the death of Buddha. Thus the main reason for all such similarities is that out of good fortune for the Buddhists, Maseeh came to Hindustan and stayed for a long time amongst Buddhists and they recieved detailed knowledge on his life and His preachings. Consequently it was inevitable that a great part of that teaching and ceremonials should have found its way into Buddhists records for Jesus was respected and taken for the Buddha by the Buddhists. These people therefore recorded his sayings in their books and ascribed them to the Buddha." (Maseeh Hindustan Mein, Roohani Khazain vol.15 p.78)

On the other hand Holy Quran says (57:27) that monasticism was invented by Christians. Monasticism includes all ways of detaching oneself from mankind, specially state of celibacy :

"Then We caused Our messengers to follow in their footsteps; and We caused Jesus, son of Mary, to follow, and gave him the Gospel, and placed compassion and mercy in the hearts of those who followed him. But monasticism they invented - We ordained it not for them - only seeking Allah's pleasure, and they observed it not with right observance. So We give those of them who believe their reward, but many of them are evil-livers." (al-Quran 57:27)

But contrary to this verse, Mirza Sahib says that Hazrat Isa (pbuh) preached the doctrine of Chastity and Celibacy. Who is to be believed? Holy Quran or the word of Mirza Ghulam?

Hazrat Isa pbuh - Prophet for Bani Israel or Prophet for Buddhists?

Allah had sent Hazrat Isa (pbuh) to guide the Children of Israel BUT Mirza Sahib sent Him to the followers of Buddha. Majority of the followers of Buddha were non-Israelites. Mirza Sahib says that Buddha got Ilham from Allah (Divine Revelation) to forecast the coming of Hazrat Isa (PBUH) 500 years later to give new life to Buddhism.

"After recieving the revelation from God, Buddha gave his followers this hope that Bagwa Metreya will come to their land. Thus any Buddhist who is aware of this prophecy cannot deny the fact that the Bagwa Maiterya, whose other name was Maseeh came to this land, because the failure of a prophecy makes that religion bogus." (Maseeh in Hindustan, Roohani Khazain vol 15 p.84)

"Every Buddhist must necessarily profess the belief that five hundred years after the Buddha, the Bagwa (white) Maitreya did appear in their land." (Maseeh in Hindustan, Roohani Khazain vol.15 p.92)

"There can be no doubt that He came in the colours of Buddha and the Book of Oldenburg with reference to Buddha's Book, Lkavati Sutta, it is written that the followers of Buddha used to console themselves with the hope of future that they will achieve the fruits of salvation by becoming the follower of Maitreya. i.e. they had confidence that Maitreya will appear among them and they will attain salvation through him, because the words in which Buddha had given them the hope of Maitreya they were clearly proving that his followers will meet Maitreya. Now with this statement of this book, confidence is generated in the heart that God had created means of their guidance from both sides . . . . and no one can doubt that those moral teachings and spiritual ways which were established by Buddha, the teachings of Hazrat Maseeh have regenerated them in this world." (Maseeh in India, Roohani Khazain vol.15 pp. 81-82)

How could Hazrat Isa (pbuh ) go to preach among non-Bani Israel on the basis of divine revelation of Buddha? Is this not AGAINST OUR AND YOUR FAITH which states that Hazrat Isa (PBUH) was sent to Bani Israel only? To further clarify that Hazrat Isa (pbuh) went to all Buddhists whether they were Israelites or not, Mirza Sahib quotes Buddha as saying that Hazrat Isa (pbuh) will come from outside to the land of Prophecy, Magadh, in which the people were dark. And Buddha himself was dark. And SINCE ALL THE BUDDHISTS ARE INCLUDED IN THIS PROPHECY, COMMON SENSE SAYS THAT NON ISRAELITES ARE ALSO INCLUDED, SINCE ALL BUDDHISTS WERE NOT ISRAELITES.

Another Hypocricy of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad

A very interesting point to note is that when Mirza Sahib speaks of Hazrat Isa (pbuh) he says peace be upon him, BUT IN THE VERY SAME SENTENCE he forgets to says peace be upon Buddha. Reason? Probably Mirza Sahib himself did not believe deep down in his heart that Buddha was a messenger as well like Hazrat Isa(pbuh) :

"With reference to the similarity in titles, it is enough to point out, that if for example, Jesus (on whom be peace) calls himself the "Light" in his teachings, so, Gautama has been named the Buddha which in Sanskrit means "light". (Maseeh in Hindustan, Roohani Khazain vol.15 p.81)

 

 

Gospel of Barnabas and Mirza Ghulam Ahmad's Ignorance

Gospel of Barnabas is widely available. Although it is not included in the New Testament but it is undoubtedly an ancient book. During the last 1600 years it had been anathematized and then later forced out of circulation for its alleged heresy. This Gospel contains statements which contradict modern day Christian beliefs. For example it is stated that Jesus was neither crucified, nor did he die on the Cross. Barnabas was an Apostle of Jesus Christ.

Mirza Sahib says:

"After all that has been stated, it should be kept in mind that the Gospel of Barnabas, which must be available in the British Museum, it is stated that Jessu was not crucified nor did he die on the Cross. Now we can very well say though this book is not included in the Gospels and has been rejected summarily, yet there is no doubt that it is an ancient book and it belongs to the period in which the other Gospels were written. Is it not open to us to regard this ancient book as a book of history of ancient times and make use of it as a book of history?"   (Masseh in Hindustan, Roohani Khazain vol.15 p.21)

PERHAPS MIRZA SAHIB DID NOT READ THE GOSPEL OF BARNABAS HIMSELF, for in the Bible of Barnabas it is clearly mentioned that Hazrat Muhammad (SAAW) will be the last Prophet, and only false Prophets will come after him.Please see the following extract from the Bible of Barnabas:

"Isa (pbuh) said in that Messenger's coming who will wipe out all false ideas about me. His religion will spread all over the earth . Sardar Kahin asked: After the coming of the Messenger of God will more Prophets come ? Isa(mph) said: After him not true Prophet will come. But many false Prophets will come." (Gospel of Barnabas, Urdu Edition p.143)

"Then the disciples asked: O Master, who is that man who you mention will come to earth? With great happiness Isa (pbuh) replied: He is Muhammad (SAAW), Messenger of God. When he will come, just as rain brings out fruits from earth when there has been no rain for a long time, in the same way with the unlimited Mercy and Blessings with which he will come, he will be the cause of many good and virtuous deeds."(Gospel of Barnabas p.228, Urdu version)

Mirza Sahib admits that the Gospel of Barnabas is an ancient historical do*****ent, written at the same time as other Gospels. He presents one of its statements to support his claim. But what he didn't know was that it not only mentions the coming of Hazrat Muhammad (SAAW) but also the finality of his Prophethood or did he? If he had, what right did Mirza Ghulam has to claim that he is a Prophet? Why did he take one statement as a proof and ignored the other one. Perhaps he had never read the Gospel!

Is Adam (pbuh) still alive? Did Mirza Saheb die at the age of 30?

Mirza Basheeruddin Mehmood, son of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad and the 2nd Khalifa of Qadian, wrote a book called Da'awat-ul-Ameer (Invitation of Ameer). Following is a quotation from this book.

"There is another important statement by the Holy Prophet. During his last illness, the Holy Prophet said to his daughter Fatima:   'Once a year Gabriel used to recite the Quran to me. This year he recited twice. He also told me that every succeeding Prophet has lived upto half the age of his predecessor. He told me that Jesus, son of Mary, lived to 120 years. Therefore, I think, I may live to about 60 years.'   The statement is an inspired one. The Holy Prophet does not say anything on his own but reports what he received from Gabriel, the angel of revelation. The important part of the statement is that Jesus lived to 120 years. According to the New Testament records, Jesus was about 32 or 33 years old when the event of the Cross took place and Jesus "ascended " to Heaven. If Jesus has really 'ascended' his age up to the time of the Holy Prophet comes to about 600 years, not 120. If what Gabriel told Holy Prophet is true, then Holy Prophet should have lived for at least 300 years. But he lived only for 63 years. Yet, according to Gabriel Jesus lived for 120 years. This important statement by the Holy Prophet proves that to think that Jesus is alive is against the teaching of Holy Prophet, against what was revealed to him by God. In view of all this, how can we be persuaded to believe that Jesus is alive? How can we deny anything which the Holy Prophet has taught so clearly?" (Invitation to Ahmadiyyat or Da'awat-ul-Ameer, p.17)

Now in the light of above statement, if what Mirza Basheer has written is true then let us very quickly calculate the age of some Prophets. Although there have been 124,000 of them, we will just take a few famous ones. We come to the following conclusion:-

Hazrat Adam (pbuh)       122880 years oldHazrat Seth (pbuh)         61440 years oldHazrat Noah (pbuh)           30720 years oldHazrat Abraham (pbuh)    15360 years oldHazrat Ishmael (pbuh)          7680 years oldHazrat Jacob (pbuh)        3840 years oldHazrat Joseph (pbuh)          1920 years oldHazrat Moses (pbuh)            960 years oldHazrat David (pbuh)        480 years oldHazrat Solomon (pbuh)        240 years oldHazrat Jesus (pbuh)              &   120 years oldHazrat Muhammad (pbuh)     60 years old

Based on this formula, some of the future prophets ( if at all there are some, and there should be at least three of them if you accept the Qadiani interpretation of the verse of KhatmeNabuwwat) will have following ages:

Mirza Ghulam A. Qadiani ??? 30 years old?????? Next Prophet would 15 years old?????? And the prophet after that 7 and half years old . . . and so on.

So according to the extract on page 5 taken from "Invitation to Ahmadiyyat" Hazrat Adam (mph) should have lived upto 122880 years. which means that he is still alive. In fact even Hazrat Shees, Nuh, Ibrahim and Ismail (pt) should all be alive now. FURTHER, if Mirza Sahib is a prophet, he should have died at the age of 30 only, that is half the age of the previous Prophet. Did Mirza Sahib become Prophet after his death? Still more interesting, if Prophets will continue to come, then just a few Prophets down the line we would be having one who is a NEWBORN!! This statement of the Holy Prophet (SAAW), if at all authentic, clearly means that there will no Prophet after Hazrat Mohammad (SAW) because the next Prophet will have to die at the age of 30 and the next at 15 which means he will not even be an adult.

Lo! herein is indeed a lesson for those who see. (alQuran 24:44)

ILLIAS SUTTAR

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Date: 25th April, 1996

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